Post @ Vigorous Intuition

This is a mirror to a post made at the Vigorous Intuition Forum, thread titled:

Re: Is Whitley Strieber Advocating Implants?

I need to mirror this post. Since I've been warned I'm likely to be erased an banned from the site I posted it on.

Mostly commentary on this post by Whitley Streiber called "The Wonders of Western Civilization" which I found disturbing.

______________________________________________________

Looking at his work through his political commentary, rather than his point of view on UFO's, I got a very negative reaction to him. I feel he is a fraud based upon what I read of his political commentary.

I found the example I read some months ago. It had been linked in the Facebook wall of Christopher Knowles. I made a comment then as to how he appeared to be totally brainwashed into a false mainstream point of view. And had a tone in this writing of a know-it-all, and of someone who is above all questioning. Even though I knew what he was saying was total false-narrative bullshit and telling people what was to come....programming.

I was chastised by Knowles for criticizing Streiber:

As others have a positive reaction and want to like him and believe him.

For example of his blindness to reality: Wikileaks... Streiber talks about Wikileaks as though Assange is a real "whistleblower"
http://www.unknowncountry.com/journal/w ... s-and-ufos lol


This next is the essay that made me drop my jaw and laugh out loud. http://www.unknowncountry.com/journal/w ... vilization
The Wonder of Western Civilization But was kind of chilling and i guess fits in to what folks say about Whitley S's horror genre.

The Wonder of Western Civilization H'uh? What is this? 1955? Is the Cold War still on?

	Quote: "Western civilization is in the doghouse. []To the far right, it's annoyingly insistent on freedom for all--even the far left."

H'uh?

He's totally gobble-ti-gook. To paraphrase: " The problem with Western Civilization [sic] is bureaucracy."

,

	Quote: these huge social organisms have developed as a result of the flowering of human freedom that the west has fostered,

	Quote: The core discovery upon which western civilization rests, and what makes the western mind fundamentally different, is the individual.

Historically inaccurate.

"Pop" history at a gloss. As If!

(If he's a genius and psychic and a special one chosen to be free from mind control!? (now I'm starting to laugh) Why the hell doesn't he know "history" has been massively falsified?! And he's the guy as the front-running spokesperson for the UFO reality!? O ME GOD!

(I have also noticed that typically frauds will cull those who see the patina flaking on the "big guy" You can see that in 5-card monte played on the street. And I learned it in Brooklyn working the door at a nightclub... the scammers, without a doubt, affect the "how dare you question me" demeanor.

Guess why?! ................................................Because that's all they've got. And I heard rumor above that WS broaches no criticism and will cut anyone who does not worship his word and person?)

	Quote: The first stirrings of individuality came in Roman times, in the client-kingdom of Judea. Hellenism brought the concept of intellectual inquiry. Buddhism brought a compassionate deity. And Christ brought the idea that every human being, no matter his or her station in life, had value, and, for the first time, people began to see themselves as individuals, rather than social components.

I got the feeling he trying to convince others that he "knows what he is talking about." He got the "Everybody knows" affect, like a TV Talking head person.

	Quote: After Jesus proclaimed the individual, it was a very long time before society actually began to make room for the liberties that are needed for people to really flower and discover themselves.

Jesus proclaimed the "individual?" What is he on? Who does he appeal to? I am very surprised someone as deeply intelligent as Jason K. could be enamored of such a doofus. It must be a "authoritarian mask of power?" trip. And the emotional response to Strieber a result of masochism?

(I agree with someone above who said, "Once I catch a person in a lie, I don't pay too much attention to what else they are saying" (to paraphrase).)

After I read this essay I felt: "Wow Strieber may be a very fine person, kind to his family and friends, loved in general, but whatever he is saying is such deep ridiculous poison. I need to hold reservations against anyone who thinks he is real."

	Quote: The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution was promulgated so that complex debate could be undertaken without fear of state censure, and as the fundamental right that it codifies was adopted across the western world, a great symposium of ideas formed, and with it the flowering of philosophy, science, literature and the arts that has so dignified our civilization, and so immeasurably advanced the human mind and the human species.

The First Amendment is the feather in "our" (speaks in the "we" like the New York Lies and the Time Inc.) cap? But how relevant is that *really, after false-flag 9/11?

	Quote: The arts of the west--its plastic arts, its writing, its music--are exponentially more complex than those of any other culture.

All because of the "individual?!" Which other places, you see, do not have?

His pot is cracked. And not because he speaks of UFO!

	Quote: At the same time that we were engaging in this pilgrimage, elsewhere in England, scientists were in the process of discovering that the world actually is a sort of matrix, made up of uncountable masses of information, but only of two kinds, the yes and the no. All of reality, in other words, functions exactly like computer language.

This is total bullshit. The universe as a computational machine!?

Uh huh.

I believe in advanced life forms but the universe is a fancy computational machine. to paraphrase.

From the statement above I assume, Strieber is, at least, a closet trans-humanist. I don't know enough about him to figure if he's formally "out-ed" himself.
WS needs to get serious with MIT and find out why no machine has passed the Turing Test and why machines are really bad at simulation of the human -

HaHa. He touts "freedom" and "the individual" but claims the universe is a computational machine....How's that for a crazy-making double bind?

	Quote: This is leading scientists to proclaim anew that we are, in our essence, mechanical. But what they do not account for is complexity, and it is complexity that freedom fosters, complexity of social ordering, complexity of thought and the consequent discovery of deeper, more subtle feelings--in short, the very ethic of responsibility for oneself and others that Jesus propounded at the beginning of our journey.

Oh Yes, the beginning of "our" journey was "Jesus!"

Help me.

The most stunning thing about Streiber is not his truly stunning idiocy, but that he has someone as brilliant as Kephas as his follower and advocate.

And here's WS: really chilling New World Order agenda...

"Assuming that the world does not collapse around our ears for one reason or another, western civilization is about to take two important leaps forward. [b]First, it is going to expand beyond its traditional borders, spreading at first as materialism to peoples all over the world who are discovering that they have individual desires,[/b] needs and demanding the rights that go with them. Second, it is going to penetrate deep into the interior of the physical and spiritual worlds. It will create machines that are more intelligent than men, and these machines are going to quickly discover why they are different from us, which will be that we have biological souls and they do not."

I'm not really afraid that what he says is actually true, since I have no doubt he himself is too stupid (or pretending to be), for me to rely upon him for actual information about the real world. But what is scary is from where does he get his "ideas?"

More New World Order cheerleading:

	Quote: Then will come another leap forward, as we finally unite with ourselves across a now-unseen gulf between physical and nonphysical man. The great science of the next century will be the science of the soul, as we embrace the conundrum of being at last, not just with speculation, but with instruments so sensitive that they can detect the flight of consciousness as it is running free of the body. This is our destiny, and why our civilization is such a wonder, and so important.

"We" are so important.

Does this guy give off the faint aroma of fascism or what?! Come ON.